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Readers Strongly Opposed to Change in Missouri Gun Law

September 21, 2016 Missouri, Politics/Policy No Comments

A majority of readers in the non-scientific Sunday Poll strongly oppose the changes to Missouri’s gun laws when the legislature overrode Gov Nixon’s veto lsat week. It should be noted the readership here doesn’t represent the region/state.

  • Come Jan. 1, lawful owners of firearms will be able to conceal and carry them anywhere in Missouri, subject to the limitations that already exist — not in the likes of courthouses, jails, polling places or businesses, such as grocery stores, that post “no guns” at their doors.
  • Background checks for buying weapons still apply as required.
  • Only holders of Missouri concealed-carry permits can carry concealed weapons outside of the state, and Illinois still requires visitors to have Illinois permits. The other seven states surrounding Missouri honor its permits. There also are some places in Missouri, such as some school districts, that give more rights to permit holders.
  • Local governments, such as St. Louis, still can prohibit people from carrying weapons openly unless they have concealed-carry permits. (Post-Dispatch)

The expanded ‘Stand Your Ground’ law begins October 14th.

Below are the poll results:

Q: Support or oppose: Missouri law will soon allow people to carry a concealed gun without a permit or training.

  • Strongly support 12 [16.67%]
  • Support 4 [5.56%]
  • Somewhat support 1 [1.39%]
  • Neither oppose or support 1 [1.39%]
  • Somewhat oppose 4 [5.56%]
  • Oppose 2 [2.78%]
  • Strongly oppose 48 [66.67%]
  • Unsure/No Answer 0 [0%]

More than 3/4 oppose the change.

— Steve Patterson

Sunday Poll: Support or Oppose Missouri Eliminating Permits/Training to Conceal Carry?

Please vote below
Please vote below

The Missouri legislature, controlled by Republicans, overrode bills that Governor Nixon, a Democrat, had vetoed earlier in the year. Including one involving guns:

Previously, gun owners could carry a concealed weapon in public by passing a criminal background check and completing a gun safety training class in order to get a permit. 

On the final day of the 2016 legislative session, lawmakers approved a bill eliminating those requirements and allowing someone to carry a concealed firearm in public without a permit.

Nixon vetoed the bill because he said it would allow “individuals to legally carry a concealed firearm even though they have been or would be denied a permit because their background check revealed criminal offenses or caused the sheriff to believe they posed a danger.”

Joining Nixon in opposing the bill were groups representing law enforcement officers around the state, such as the Missouri Police Chiefs Association, along with the state’s four Catholic bishops. 

Proponents have argued that the change is about public safety. The legislation, according to the National Rifle Association, “seeks to expand the fundamental right to self-defense of Missourians and strengthen their ability to protect themselves and their families.” (Kansas City Star)

Some additional specifics:

The expanded right to concealed carry takes effect Jan. 1. Changes in rules for “stand your ground” are effective Oct. 14.

The only section that became law immediately with Wednesday’s override vote says that service personnel whose concealed-carry permits expire while they are on active duty can get renewals without penalty for two months after discharge. (Post-Dispatch)

Below is today’s poll question:

The poll will be open until 8pm tonight — unless I see a spike in traffic that suggests one side or the other is rally people to influence the outcome. If that occurs, the poll will be closed immediately. However, I do expect a higher than usual number of responses. This is a non-scientific poll.

— Steve Patterson

A Look at Some of Tuesday’s Primary Results

From Missouri’s primary held Tuesday August 2, 2016:

U.S. Senator

  • (D) In this 4-way race the city & state both picked Jason Kander by a wide margin, with Cori Bush a distant 2nd though better in the city than statewide. Chief Wanna Dubie came in 3rd in the city and statewide.
  • (R) Incumbent Roy Blunt easily defeated three challengers from his own party.
  •  A total of 985,759 Missourians voted in this race, with 67% in the GOP (662,842),  32% in the Democratic (318,742), and the rest in Libertarian & Constitution primary.
  • In the city the total votes are as follows: Democrat (40,596), Republican (6,254), Libertarian (126), Constitution (10)
  • The 46,986 total votes from the city represents just 4,8% of the statewide vote.

Governor

  • (D) Current Attorney General Chris Koster, as expected, easily defeated three primary challengers.
  • (R) One of the most watched races. City & statewide voters picked Eric Greitens, but the order of the other three was different: City: 2) Hanaway 3) Kinder 4) Brunner; State: 2) Brunner 3) Kinder 4) Hanaway
  • This race received the most votes statewide: 1,011,386 — 67.6% in the GOP primary.

Lt Governor

  • (D) Russ Carnahan easily defeated two challengers.
  • (R) Mike Parson received 51.5% of the vote in the 3-way race, Bev Randles was a close 2nd with 43.4%
  • Unlike statewide voters, City voters in the republican primary picked Randles by a slim margin

Secretary of State

  • (D) Robin Smith easily defeated two challengers in both the City and statewide votes
  • (R) Similarly, John Ashcroft easily defeated two challengers in both the City and statewide votes

State Treasurer

  • (D) Statewide & City voters narrowly picked Pat Contreras over challenger Judy Baker.
  • (D) Statewide voters picked  Judy Baker over challenger Pat Contreras, though city voters picked the latter.

Attorney General

  • (D) Statewide & City voters picked Teresa Hensley over Jake Zimmerman
  • (R) Josh Hawley easily defeated Kurt Schaefer in a hotly contested race, statewide & City

State Representative — District 78

  • (D) Incumbent Penny Hubbard received 2,190 votes to Bruce Franks’ 2,106; 50.98% vs 49.02%. Franks hasn’t conceded the race to Hubbard.

State Representative — District 81

  • (D) Former Alderman Alfred Wessels defeated two others for the nomination.

St. Louis Circuit Attorney

  • (D) Kimberly Gardner received 48.58% of the vote in a 4-way race, 2nd place was Mary Carl with 23.6% — Carl was endorsed by outgoing Circuit Attorney Jennifer Joyce. Since the city is a one-party town, no other party has a candidate in the general election  — Gardner will become the city’s first African-American Circuit Attorney (prosecutor).

St. Louis Sheriff

  • (D) Vernon Betts won the 5-way race with 43.21% of the vote. Joseph Vaccaro was 2nd with 31,38%. Betts will face minimal opposition in the November general election, will become the new sheriff. However, he will not be the first African-American elected to serve as St. Louis’ sheriff. Benjamin Goins was elected sheriff in 1977 (Source).

Final thoughts

Since Missouri voters aren’t registered to a political party, as is the case in so many states, we can vote in whichever primary we decide. Thus, it’s hard to predict if the overwhelming number of voters in the statewide primary means statewide Democratic candidates don’t stand chance. Ballot issues like medical marijuana will also drive voters to the polls.

We can see that highly contested races at the top of the ballot draw more voters than nominally contested and low ballot races.

Though Missouri has voted Republican in presidential races since 2000, the Trump/Pence ticket might not continue that streak. Will the Green Party collect enough signatures to be on the ballot? Will it get enough votes to guarantee ballot access in 2020?

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Please Vote Today!

Vintage photo of the former offices of the St. Louis Board of Election Commissioners. From my collection
Vintage photo of the former offices of the St. Louis Board of Election Commissioners. From my collection

Today is primary election day in the Show-Me state, with lots of hotly contested races.

Prior posts:

If you haven’t done so already, please go vote.

— Steve Patterson

Missouri Republican Gubernatorial Candidates Debate Tonight

Missouri Capital, Jefferson City, MO, April 2011
Missouri Capital, Jefferson City, MO, April 2011

The four candidates for the Republican nomination for Missouri governor will debate for an hour tonight. They also debated last month — see Watch full video of the debate between Republican Missouri Governor’s candidates.

In the non-scientific Sunday Poll, readers thought Lt Gov Peter Kinder is most likely to win the GOP primary next month:

Q: Which Republican candidate for Missouri Governor do you THINK will win the August 2nd primary?

  1. Peter D. Kinder 16 [38.1%]
  2. TIE 8 19.05%
    1. Catherine Hanaway
    2. John Brunner
  3. TIE  5 [11.9%]
    1. Eric Greitens
    2. Unsure/no opinion

Of the four, Kinder is the only one to have ever won a statewide race. Brunner lost the 2012 primary for U.S. Senate to Todd “Legitimate Rape” Akin, Greitens has never run for public office before. In this poll nobody got a majority of votes, which may happen in the primary as well. An argument in favor of Ranked Choice Voting:

Ranked choice voting (RCV) makes democracy more fair and functional. It works in a variety of contexts. It is a simple change that can have a big impact.

With ranked choice voting, voters can rank as many candidates as they want in order of choice. Candidates do best when they attract a strong core of first-choice support while also reaching out for second and even third choices. When used as an “instant runoff” to elect a single candidate like a mayor or a governor, RCV helps elect a candidate that better reflects the support of a majority of voters. When used as a form of fair representation voting to elect more than one candidate like a city council, state legislature or even Congress, RCV helps to more fairly represent the full spectrum of voters. (FairVote.org)

For a look at all the candidates running, please see Ballotpedia’s Missouri gubernatorial election, 2016 page. Tonight’s debate will be broadcast in the St. Louis area on KMOV channel 4.1 from 7pm-8pm.

For a drinking game take a drink overtime one of them says any of the following ten words:

  1. Conservative
  2. Constitution
  3. Family
  4. Faith
  5. Liberals
  6. Obama
  7. Outsider
  8. Pro-Life
  9. Second Amendment
  10. Washington

Don’t play the drinking game if you’ll be driving afterwards.

 

— Steve Patterson

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