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St. Louis Doesn’t Care About Pedestrians, Recycling Bins Still Blocking Sidewalk

December 28, 2015 Accessibility, Featured, South City, Walkability 14 Comments

Over two years ago I posted about recycling dumpsters blocking a public sidewalk on the West side of Target, At the time Clifton Ave was being resurfaced so I wasn’t sure if they were on the sidewalk temporarily.

The six recycling bins, oriented to the street, viewed from across Clifton Ave
September 2013: The six recycling bins, oriented to the street, viewed from across Clifton Ave

In the time since I’ve noticed them still on the sidewalk, but I was passing by on Chippewa and couldn’t get a picture. Yesterday, Target had the Chippewa entrance to the lower level parking closed, so we turned onto Clifton Ave. — so I stopped the car to get a pic.

December 27, 2015. Click image to view in Google's Street View
December 27, 2015. Click image to view in Google’s Street View

Recycling is important, but so are pedestrians!  All pedestrians should be able to go from Chippewa to Bancroft — that’s why the sidewalk exists.

Here’s what needs to happen:

  1. Move the bins into the street, OR
  2. Add more sidewalk behind the bins, OR.
  3. Relocate the bins elsewhere

I’d love to know who made the decision to block the public sidewalk.

— Steve Patterson

 

Currently there are "14 comments" on this Article:

  1. JZ71 says:

    4. OR cross the street and use the unobstructed sidewalk on the west side of Clifton!

    A. There is NO pedestrian (or vehicular) access to Target (which occupies the entire block), nor anything else, on the east side of Clifton.

    B. The first photo shows clear pedestrian access in front of the bins, the second photo shows the bins pulled forward, to the curb, for better access, for both people dropping off and for trucks picking up. Unless someone has gone to the effort to remove the full width of concrete visible in the first photo, pedestrian access is still available behind the bins – they don’t take up the entire width of the concrete paving, never have, never will.

    I get it. You don’t want ANYTHING blocking your precious sidewalks. It doesn’t look like you were even trying to walk, here, just doing a drive-by, to find something else to complain, oops, post, about. I’m very familiar with this area. This NOT an issue with the local residents – if it were, the aldermen would’ve been all over it, in a heartbeat.

     
    • When I first encountered the problem it was because I wanted to catch a bus, I don’t recall exactly why I was on the back side of Target. The beauty of a fully connected street grid is knowing it cab be used to access the rest of the grid.

      I got almost to Chippewa before I realized the sidewalk was entirely blocked — the first photo is when the asphalt had been removed to resurface. It is 100% blocked — an able-bodied person would need to step into the street or onto the grass. It’s unacceptable.

      Just put them in the street and tell motorists not to run into them! .

       
    • Fozzie says:

      I imagine Steve would complain that the rope used to hang himself was too long.

       
    • Larry Guinn says:

      The sidewalk is built for pedestrians and there is plenty of street space. Why would you advocate blocking the sidewalk when it’s clearly not necessary? Also, how do you know it’s not a hassle to the local people unless you stand by and monitor this location 24/7/365?

       
  2. RyleyinSTL says:

    Why are these even necessary given the city provides alley bins (which anyone can put recycling into)?

     
  3. neroden says:

    I’d talk to the manager of the Target, armed with the citations showing that blocking the public sidewalk is illegal. They might not be Target’s, but they probably are, so I’d first ask whether the dumpsters actually belong to Target. If not, the question is whose they are.

    It’s times like this I occasionally wish I had a small forklift. Legally, abandoning these on the sidewalk means anyone has the right to walk off with them and sell them. 🙂

    Something you wrote indicates that this may be some kind of municipal program? In that case, whoever’s in charge of that municipal program is the one who needs a stern talking-to.

     

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